eBay Search - 0 Results Found, No Promoted Listings?

Liz Morton
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eBay's search engine and algorithms have been a frustrating mystery for years and CEO Jamie Iannone's tech-led reimagination has yet to improve the situation - if anything, searching on the platform seems to be getting worse, not better.

I'm seeing an increase in reports of searches returning "0 results found" when in fact there are results that match the exact terms entered by the user.

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Hard to figure this one out. Search criteria: plink variety pack (no quotes) brings back a screen telling me 0 Results Found so instead they are showing me ‘pink variety pack’ EXCEPT the first 7 results are clearly what I wanted. 5 of them have the words ‘plink variety pack’ in the title, on…

Hard to figure this one out. Search criteria: plink variety pack (no quotes)

brings back a screen telling me 0 Results Found so instead they are showing me 'pink variety pack' EXCEPT the first 7 results are clearly what I wanted. 5 of them have the words 'plink variety pack' in the title, one of them as the first 3 words.

I'm used to weird results b/c of I/S's, but this is just odd. I mean it did return what I was looking for, but it doesn't think it did, telling me there were 0 matches. The other 800 some results were unrelated, as one might expect since it claims to have substituted the word "pink" (though the first 7 don't use "pink". I cannot figure out the logic here.

Why would it even sub my keyword, when there are clearly results with my kw.

I was able to replicate this one and can confirm, the search says there are 0 results for plink variety pack, autocorrects to "pink variety pack", but then displays results that match the original search terms.

This is just one example but I've found many more across the community and social media.


Another seller found some very strange things happening with search last week that indicate Promoted Listings may not be displaying correctly or that something in the algorithm has considerably changed the sort order and ranking of Promoted vs Organic listings.

eBay search/traffic/promotions seem to be having HUGE problems…
I thought I would let others know of my recent findings. I noticed some strange volatility and patterns in eBay’s traffic for the last few days, so I thought I would research a little further to see if I could figure out what is going on, and I believe I’ve stumbled upon some major issues. The fir…

I thought I would let others know of my recent findings. I noticed some strange volatility and patterns in eBay’s traffic for the last few days, so I thought I would research a little further to see if I could figure out what is going on, and I believe I’ve stumbled upon some major issues.

The first thing I was trying to look in to was my odd observation that all of the top sellers in our category , all who have consistently been ranked on top of eBay’s organic search for years, in addition to being the biggest investors in Promoted Listings, seem to be all ranking far down in search results.

I was curious as to what may be causing this. As it seems to imply that both organic search rankings as well as PL are not actually being factored right now.

I began researching how Promoted Listings are showing up. Prior to this, in our category, the first 2 results were pretty consistently marked “Sponsored”. In the morning, I’d noticed just 1 “Sponsored” rather than two. So I thought I’d check again and research a bit further…

I was surprised by what I’d seen:

no_sponsor

None of them sponsored…? I scrolled down a bit, it seemed that NOTHING was marked as sponsored?

So then I tried a search, as I usually do, to try to count how many sponsored (if any) might be on the page. Hit Cntl + F, and searched for “Sponsored”. My results:

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Literally EVERY single search result is secretly marked as sponsored!! But the text is in a white font that’s not visible unless you search for it or highlight the text in the listing!

Considering nothing was showing as promoted, while at the same time everything has a secret ‘hidden’ promotion mark, that seems like quite clear evidence to me that something is indeed broken in their search/promotions system.

I had asked some friends about this, and none of them had it where ZERO promoted items appeared on the page like mine did, although they did mention the results had very few promoted items. But doing Cntl + F, they all did have every item secretly marked as promoted!

There was quite a bit of discussion about the transparent/hidden "sponsored" text, with some sellers stating they've seen that happen for years and it's simply the mechanism by which eBay turns on or off whether a search result is shown as sponsored - basically that wording is transparent if it is an organic listing and then "turned on" by making that text visible when it is showing the promoted version of the listing.

That's plausible and honestly, I'm not sure exactly what the transparent "sponsored" text really means. I've reached out to eBay to try to get a clearer understanding of why that transparent text exists and how it may be impacting search and will update if I receive more information.

What I am sure of is it is absolutely not normal to see 0 promoted listings in a search with over 200 results on the page - especially in a very crowded and competitive category such as Parts & Accessories.

"How are 250 results appearing in a search that shows a max of 200 items, with the transparent sponsored text applying to every single one of them?"

No actual visual sponsored text for a single one of the 250 results?

Related to what shipscript has mentioned, 50 sponsored results is far above what would would typically be shown.

Either way we approach the issue, it doesn't add up and implies issues on Friday.

I have to agree with this seller - no matter how you slice it, there are some very strange things going on with eBay search right now, none of which seem to be helping the vast majority of sellers.

What's really going on here and how much of an impact is it having on sales across the platform? eBay owes sellers an answer, though I won't hold my breath it will be anywhere near as transparent as that hidden sponsored text.


What problems have you seen with eBay search recently? Let us know in the comments below!

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lessthanthreerecords
This is a major problem. The first person quoted here said that the results matching their actual search (what they typed in) were at the top. That would be problematic enough, since some people may see the message that there were zero results and not look more closely. However, I would encourage that person to look at the 800 other results (not necessarily every one of them), because in my case, the results matching my actual search are NOT all at the top. Yes, there are generally a few at the very top that match my search and not what eBay changed it to. But the worst part of it is that there are also some matching results mixed in further down. I find that this generally happens with searches that generally would not have a ton of matches, and the changed search generally has a lot more. So, the old "needle in a haystack" phrase is pretty fitting here. Also, in the tweet of mine quoted here, the reply I got from eBay was as though they had no clue about the issue. I was asking for a followup, since I first raised this issue back in May. Oof!
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In the last few months it seems like they removed the "Newly Listed" badge on listings and I think the weight that had in the algorithm is gone. I used to list 50 new listings (about 1/25th of my store) in a single day and my impressions on both organic and promoted would jump substantially. Now any increase in impressions is roughly the same as the percentage increase of our number of listings and sales have just absolutely stalled with the same method. I think it goes the same for "Ending Soon" items on their last day before GTC renews. We used to get a few orders of older orders that we listed the same day/group out of the blue and always assumed that group of listings was about to renew. That no longer happens, not in the same pattern. Our impressions are 1/2 of same period last year yet our CTR and conversion rate the same, with nothing changing other than having more listings. If promoted is tied to organic impressions, it would explain a lot as we are no longer getting that organic impression boost on newly listed items. I think that really kills the whole "List everyday to get sales" narrative, at least in regards to any algorithm advantage. Also before they recently got rid of those "Bot views", if those were considered organic, those fake views were maybe driving more promoted impressions? Something certainly changed in the algorithm for both organic and promoted and it's substantially changed our baseline with the way we approached selling on ebay.

We've upped our promoted listings for a week by 50%, well above any seller in our category would should feel comfortable with and should be outbidding most searches. In this test we noticed promoted impressions went up a bit, however the products we got sales and traction on were on the upper side of our products in terms of price. It makes me think they are not going by percentages, but by the ad revenue produced. I see why that makes sense business-wise but it's disingenuous to represent the system as the highest percent wins the placement the same way any other ad platform handles placement bids.

The "Views" graph on the traffic page has been broken for at least a year. The blue bar meant to visualize organic views is actually showing a bar the same size that total number of views would be. If you hover over the bar it lists the "Correct" views. But looking at just the bars, it looks like you are doing way better than you actually are. It would be a 5 minute bug fix to just change the variable of the blue bar to the organic views not the total views, but instead all the coders are working on integrating "the Vault" into reports/apis/front-end.
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Just wanna pop in to comment this one. The views page had some weirdness to it, yeah. A long while back, if you right click > inspected the bar, it had been Organic + Promoted = the number it would show on the graph. It wasn't the total, but it was a combined of promo/non promo.

Then another seller let me know that it seemed to have been fixed on their end. Wasn't fixed for us, yet, but then occasionally it showed up correctly, other times it didn't. Seemed like they were tweaking things, but it was either a simple visual bug that came and went. So I hadn't bothered reporting it.

Now, it's a completely different story. If you combine the numbers for organic, promoted, and off-eBay in any way, they do NOT equal this new number. I have no idea what this new number actually is.

Considering I can't find any correlation, it's a bit worrisome that they not only didn't fix it, but now it doesn't even seem to be any direct sort of miscalculation, and is showing a seemingly random number.

Alongside the other strangeness in the search, I think eBay should at least consider it suspect for the tech team to look in to it further. Because who knows which of these numbers the algorithm is actually using?

Even if they did what you suggested, and changed the variable of what is shown in the chart, I don't believe that would be enough to resolve this case. Because they need to also figure out what the heck this new number is and why it's there. Because if this variable is in the wrong place, who knows what's going on with all of the other variables?

It may be just a display bug, but considering they had to have tweaked this code, and now it's even LESS accurate, it may be more than a display bug.
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UPDATE: Just digging into this - we've done several snapshot promoted listings SERP checks over the past years (like this one) and the hidden "sponsored" text is definitely new (as the count and sequencing of "sponsored" listings was noteworthy).

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The incongruent/incorrect data/graphs warrant investigation and explanation from eBay.

This is another example of eBay's trademark misexecution of yet another critical-to-sellers report (not unlike the LQR).
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